"All Memories are lost in Time, Like tears in the Rain" is a direct reference to a scene in the movie Blade Runner. Edit

That sentence is shown in the intro of Submachine FLF, i believe. In the movie, there are also giant structures similar to mesoamerican pyramids. Also, one of the one of the most important topics in the film is the idea of memories being only recordings of another (real) human being's experiences, and in the Submachine FLF, the topic is precisely memories and recordings. In both the game and the movie, the characters have to decosntruct their identity and construct it again, under the new realisation that memories are probably fake recordings and photos. That movie is considered the first cyber-punk film, and the Submachine series are clearly influenced in great part by that genre of fiction.Armepos (talk) 17:41, November 6, 2017 (UTC) Armepos.

"The Ring" may be a Cultural Influence Edit

I was watching "The Ring" today and I picked up on a few things - The tiled room (in the movie, it was the observation room for the girl) in the Lighthouse looks the same, as well as the movie projector set up there. The Lighthouse may even be the same. The sound of the page-turning (minor detail, but I picked up on it) sounds the same as when we click on a note. The material for the pages that the hospital thought she "drew" is the same for the pictures in Sub7 (or looks the same).

Or I may be paranoid.


Well, by all means put this to the page. I don't even know what The Ring is, so I'm hardly qualified to do so. Anteroinen1 19:50, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
The reason I asked before I put it in is so I avoid getting "Mateusz already denied this," etc. I'll put it in as an experiment, but it's likely it's not staying.
Not to be generally annoying, but could you also put in there which of "The Ring" movie was it? And by who. Because I've found three different, by Hitchcock and two versions of a Japanese film. (I doubt it is Hitchcock's though, that was about a boxing ring...) Anteroinen1 04:48, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
I watched the Ring to get the cultural influence about the Projector in Sub_2. In fact, I even went out and made three different "Cursed video files" on YouTube, and a story: "Dawn of the Eye-clipse", which makes a twist on the Ring storyline, where a CD of the video file brings down an eye-shaped solar eclipse and a computer virus which kills the same as the tape, spawned from the CD. This is just my experience, after all. Wanderer99 01:28, June 6, 2011 (UTC)


We should rename the article to "Cultural influences in the Submachine series", those capital letters are unnecessary.

--   FedericoF    talk    contribuctions    twitter 19:17, September 30, 2012 (UTC)
Done. Any suggestions about content? Marbles 03:44, October 1, 2012 (UTC)
Well for the popular culture section, I found two possible references in the notes, one is of the Deep Thought computer in THGTTG and another is the Alexander Polynomial.
Also, with relation to ancient cultures, the Cardinal Church looks similar to an arabic/indian palace, with domes included; the Bamboo Town is most probably an ancient civilisation, the Pantheon has some egyptian/mayan(?) influences, and many more... Sub8 is gonna give us a lot of work :P
Vortex2 (talk) 04:48, October 1, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, and the Pantheon has Indian influences too. The statue is Krishna.
--   FedericoF    talk    contribuctions    twitter 11:26, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

At the time of writing, the title is "Cultural influences in the Submachine series". I'm wondering if this can be shortened to something easier to handle. Apocryphactor (talk) 23:51, September 11, 2019 (UTC)

IRL images?Edit

Should we add the images from which the games were directly inspired by to this Wiki? It's a lot of images to add, but it would also keep them all in one place for people to find, and it would be easy to see the direct connections between the real world and the game. Recently Vortex posted the Canaan deity El in the Statue page, and it made me think of whether or not we should continue the trend. I like the idea myself, but want other opinions. Apocryphactor (talk) 11:00, August 9, 2019 (UTC)

Yes. Yes we should. That is the primary thing for the page, I think. Cataloging all these sources and influences in Mateusz' work. Some of them are obscured, because Mateusz hasn't been forthcoming (El statue is a prime example), but some are very clear and intentional nods to real history. Their origin is context for the games. It matters. It is important. Anteroinen1 (talk) 13:09, August 9, 2019 (UTC)
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